“Noise of Hammers”: RNC Convention; DNC Convention; Election 2016

Noise of hammers once I heard
Many hammers, busy hammers,
Beating, shaping, night and day,
Shaping, beating dust and clay
To a palace; saw it reared;
Saw the hammers laid away.

And I listened, and I heard
Hammers beating, night and day,
In the palace newly reared,
Beating it to dust and clay:
Other hammers, muffled hammers,
Silent hammers of decay.
(Ralph Hodgson)

So — the political conventions are over (or will be when the DNC shuts the doors later tonight), and their nominees have been selected: Donald Trump (R) and Hillary Clinton (D). The election will be held in early November, roughly 100 days from now (and presumably a week or two before Trump’s own Trump U scam trial is due to commence). According to current polls, Trump and Clinton are about tied, with Libertarian Gary Johnson and the Green Party’s Jill Stein, the nominees of their respective tee-tiny parties, snagging at the most a little over 10% of polled voters.

Bottom line: the next POTUS will be either Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump. The choice is a simple one: elect Trump and say goodbye to our America, or elect Hillary (and a Dem Senate majority, the bigger the better) and diminish their Amurkkka. It’s really just about that simple.

The single most salient issue in this election remains, and it’s a simple one: the Liberal/Conservative ratio of Supreme Court Justices. The next President will most likely name 3, maybe 4, possibly even 5 Supreme Court Justices. If Clinton wins, we’ll be assured of a Liberal-Progressive majority for decades. If Trump wins, we’ll be assured of a Christo-Fascist majority, also for decades.

The proper and logical choice is simple, at least to some of us (although clearly not to all of us). To demonstrate, below are a pair of brief comment-conversations on C&L. The first set I myself initiated by briefly spelling out what is, to me, the REASON we as a nation MUST defeat Donald Trump and elect, instead, the ONLY available Liberal candidate remaining on the scene (topical discussion follows).

The Kaine Pick: No Surprises But Big Questions

The choice is simple: elect either Hillary, or Drumpf. If Drumpf wins, kiss this country goodbye, and read up on all the joys of fascism. If Hillary wins, think possibly three or four, maybe even five, potential Supreme Court appointments (which will have a LOT to do with determining the country’s future) and don’t worry about Kaine. Veeps (aside from Cheney) typically don’t have a lot to say about much.

I’m a Bernie progressive, but understand that he’s going to remain in the Senate. I also understand that Hillary is the only available reasonable choice that has any chance at becoming POTUS. No need to worry about anything other than that. Elect her, or prepare to suffer the most hideous electoral consequences in the nation’s history.

P.S.: Kaine’s debut was impressive enough to cause me to no longer worry whether he can hold up his end of the campaign.

albabe to frugalchariot
I’m with you 100%.

But it is amazing how self-destructive and stupid some people can be.

s k to frugalchariot
I don’t vote for cheaters in either corrupt party.

How the DCN Stole the Democratic Nomination From Sanders:


Both parties will do the bidding of the Oligarchs that fund/bribe them.


You keep voting because of fear.

frugalchariot to s k
Nope. I keep voting for the possibility that we as a nation may eventually find a way to get rid of our ever-burgeoning supplies of Hitlers and Mussolinis. Fear? Nope. At my age this will probably be my last election anyway — assuming I make it till November.

s k to frugalchariot
Stop kidding yourself, with Trump or Hillary we have a Oligarchy, where the oligarch fight each other for control.

As Jimmy Carter said the US is a “Oligarchy with Unlimited Political Bribery”. He was the first Dem I voted for. I am not plying their bs game anymore.

frugalchariot to s k
I assume you’ve resigned yourself to national collapse then. Right?

s k to frugalchariot
It’s happening already, maybe you didn’t notice Obama is trying to pass his corporate Coup Trade Deals, that Hillary called the Gold Standard.

Why do you think Obama wants to pass the TPP. TTIP and TISA with his GOP Friends?

frugalchariot to s k
At this point I could care less about trade deals. They can be dealt with after the fact, IF and when the need becomes obvious. What can NOT be dealt with — for 2-3 decades — is a newly appointed Christo-Fascist (conservative) majority on the Supreme Court.

So. If Christo-Fascism is what drives you, either stay home or vote for Green, Libertarian (neither of whom stand a ghost chance in hell of accomplishing anything more than grabbing votes from R and D candidates) or vote for Trump. Vote for, i.o.w., the final demise of a country that currently teeters on the brink. Or, if you believe in the shrinking possibility that conservative Christo-Fascism can ultimately be destroyed, vote for the remaining candidate, i.e. H.R. Clinton.

Your choice. If you use your head, the only viable option becomes quickly obvious.

On the opening night of the DNC, again on C&L, I posted a comment, again describing what I see as the only salient issue in the election, and again got one positive response along with a few that suggest embedded skepticism, with no forward thinking apparent.

Democratic National Convention Live Thread

How this campaign goes depends a lot on Hillary. She has to find a way to get the liberals to back her and that may put her in a compromising position with her big money backers.

I want to see how she tapdances around that.

frugalchariot to didnotpa
AFAIC, the ONLY remaining issue in this election is the future of the Supreme Court. Elect Trump and turn the court into a Christo-Fascist entity for the next 30 years, or elect Hillary and turn it (finally!) into a liberal ‘we the people’ oriented entity.There’s one vacant seat now, and there will likely be anywhere from 2-4 more during the next 4-8 years.

The consequences of a Trump win in November could not be more dire.

Pokthecat to frugalchariot
Thank you!!

Stephen See to frugalchariot
It’s not a given that Hillary is going to make good SCOTUS decisions. In fact, it’s another opportunity to say “well Trump would have been worse so suck it up”.

frugalchariot to Stephen See
It’s ‘a given’ that Trump will make horseshit SCOTUS choices — he’s already released a list of his top eleven choices, and if you like Christo-Fascists you’ll love it.

John F A to Stephen See
I know, right? it’s not like Hillary is known for her great choices or making amazing decisions.

frugalchariot to John F A
And Drumpf is, of course. Right?

Well then I expect Hillary to work extra hard.

Don’t expect liberals to roll over this time.

ian m to didnotpa
I, on the other hand, expect Hillary to lose, if what’s past is prologue

And next, a pair of Right-Wing Watch links that explicitly delineate the right wing plans “to infuse their priorities throughout the federal government’s executive branch” and to, with Trump in the White House, turn the Supreme Court into what would amount to a conservative (fascist?) nightmare — at least for Americans with an IQ greater than, say, 75.

Revealed: The Right-Wing Movement’s Agenda For Trump’s First 180 Days

The Conservative Action Project . . . a network of more than 100 right-wing leaders created in 2008 as “an offshoot” of the secretive far-right Council for National Policy, making it part of an array of conservative coalitions that bloomed around and after the election of Barack Obama. . . .

Among the proposals, which signal the intense desire of right-wing organizations to infuse their priorities throughout the federal government’s executive branch agencies:

*Immediately rescind all Obama Executive Orders consistent with recommendations by Constitutional and trusted advisors such as The Federalist Society, The Heritage Foundation, and other conservative advisors and transition committees.
*Terminate all executive branch individuals still within their probationary period and freeze hiring for all regulatory positions.
*The President should eliminate taxpayer funding of Planned Parenthood using executive action and seek a permanent legislative solution.
*The President should freeze and withdraw all regulatory activity on the Obama energy and climate agenda.
*Submit legislation to repeal Obamacare in its entirety.
*The President should support the rule of law and reject amnesty proposals and fully enforce and strengthen interior enforcement measures in the United States.

[. . .]

Among its 2016 releases was a March memo urging Senate Republicans to be resolute in refusing to consider a nominee from President Obama to fill the Supreme Court seat that became vacant with the death of Justice Antonin Scalia. Here’s an excerpt from the group’s thoughtful and rational rhetoric:

“The president and his liberal allies know what is at stake and so do we. It is nothing short of their intent to eradicate precious constitutional rights. These leftists have made clear their first target is our 1st Amendment right to political speech and the silencing of conservative voices. They mock the 2nd Amendment right of the people to protect themselves and their families and are determined to take away our constitutional right to bear arms. They welcome the prospect of unleashing unaccountable federal agencies like the IRS and EPA to impose a liberal policy agenda that will harm Americans and punish any who dare to disagree with their worldview. And not least of all, they vow to use the Court’s power to impose an “unconditional surrender” in their cultural war against our fundamental institutions of faith, family, marriage, home, and school — and will wipe out any pro-life protections, instead imposing abortion on-demand, up to the moment of birth, paid for by the taxpayers.”

Finally, this from James Inhofe (R-OK):

Inhofe urged Republicans to rally behind Donald Trump’s presidential bid, pointing to the future of the Supreme Court. Metaxas said that “it’s kind of game over for republican democracy” if Hillary Clinton appoints liberal justices to the bench.

“How can we possibly remain America if you have six or seven Sotomayors on the court?” he asked.

Inhofe said that while the court is admirably delaying many of the Obama administration’s environmental initiatives, its direction would shift if Clinton were allowed to fill the current vacancy.

“Stop and think how significant it is if they make one change,” he said. “It doesn’t have to be all Sotomayors, it could just be one more change and we’re through.”

As I noted above, The consequences of a Trump win in November could not be more dire. The bottom line is that we may not win a Senate majority this year, and we most likely won’t win the House. But one thing is certain: IF we win the Presidency, we also win the Supreme Court which, if we lose, the consequences are too damn dire to contemplate. We can work to take the Senate and House every two years, but if the SCOTUS becomes majority conservative, it’ll likely be 20-30 years before we can even make a dent.

I.O.W., vote for Hillary, or . . . 

Noise of hammers . . .

Anyone? You know the ones:

Hammers beating, night and day,
In the palace newly reared,
Beating it to dust and clay:
Other hammers, muffled hammers,
Silent hammers of decay.


P.S.: Jim Bakker: If Trump Loses, Supreme Court Will Shut Me Down

If that’s not a grand reason to vote for Hillary, I don’t know what is.


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One Response to “Noise of Hammers”: RNC Convention; DNC Convention; Election 2016

  1. Jayden says:

    Super intmroafive writing; keep it up.

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